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Furthur Live at Fox Theater on 2009-09-20

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Furthur Live at Fox Theater on 2009-09-20

by Furthur

Topics Audience, nakguy

Set 1:
Samson & Delilah
Casey Jones
Mississippi ½ Step
Pride of Cucamonga
Throwing Stones

Set 2:
Viola Lee Blues
Cumberland Blues
Viola Lee Blues
King Solomon’s Marbles
Dark Star
Welcome to the Dance
Dark Star
Uncle John’s Band
Sugar Magnolia
Cosmic Charlie

Collection Furthur
Band/Artist Furthur
Venue Fox Theater
Location Oakland, CA

Source Milab VM-44 Link -> Lunatec V2 -> Korg MR-1000 (1bit/2.8MHz DSD)
Lineage Korg MR-1000 -> AudioGate (16/44) -> CD Wave -> FLAC
Taped by nakguy
Transferred by nakguy


* new Phil song

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Reviewer: doug_the_dude - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 20, 2015
Subject: --
My fave from the first Further run ever - a lot of that 2nd set is as you imagine - a couple of jam sandwiches and a King Solomon's Marbles, yeah....but for me the BEST part of this show is the end of the first set - you wouldn't guess it based on the setlist, but:

Pride of Cucamonga >
Jam >
Throwing Stones the real deal. I mean, that segment is just AMAZING to listen to. The first part of that jam, in particular, I mean, :::whoa, Nellie:::

And to lovehaight - saw your admonishing of JK on all three nights and hey, while I don't agree I get where you're coming from. I enjoy this band, but can understand your sentiments. I have read a lot of what people have to say regarding what exactly JK is trying to do, and what the rest of the boys see in him that they wanted to explore...if JK is indeed a "Garcia impersonator" (just look up "Furthur fake Jerry" on the internet, yo), and was hired to do as much....then, yeah....I guess it works? The Doors did the same thing, and so did Creedence. But I prefer to listen to this band's instrumentation and ignore what JK is up to when inflecting Garcia's vocal patterns *to an exact T*. It's just wearisome. Warren? Well, he, for his part, had zero interest in copying anything Garcia, and some had problems with the fact that he wasn't like Jerry enough. Guess you can't please everyone - especially uptight old deadheads.

So yeah, I guess JK does Jerry "well", for what it is. I guess one could always impersonate Garcia....badly??? How would that happen, exactly? Reminds me of an old Roger Ebert article where he asked a carny what was the difference between a good geek and bad geek. The carny replied, "Want to see the chickens?"
Reviewer: hey~now - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 8, 2010
Subject: Love this band and always will
I run into too many critics of shows or the music. Are you kidding me???
I am so very GRATEFUL that they are still playing and making great music.
I saw them in Columbus at the LC which was amazing and have tickets for the Cinci show in November - I can't wait!
The Rhythm Devils, Bill and Mickey, are playing great music as well. Just another part of their journey - every fan should embrace this music while we still have them!!!!!!!
Listening to Throwin Stones right now and have chills - don't know what more to say.
Reviewer: grflded - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 26, 2010
Subject: I couln't have said it better
FURTHERALONG thank you for post! Too many folks forget the joy and focus on the sorrow! It is almost 15 years since Jerry passed and the hear these men's passion for helping others to feel joy after all these years is beautiful! LONG live the music!
Reviewer: BIG_R - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 16, 2010
Subject: 9-20-09
I like this a lot. The recording is nice as well. Bob must stop singing Jerry's songs. I love Bob when he sticks to his material but he doesn't hold up well on Jerry's tunes.(IMO of course) The guy from DSO is a great Jerry impersonator. Let him sing all of Jerry's tunes.

ps- Someone needs to wash lovehaight's mouth out with soap. I've read other reviews by this person where he calls other reviewers idiots. I say he because I've never known a woman who behaves this poorly.
Reviewer: furthuralong - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 12, 2009
Subject: We Are All Blessed!
I'm not going to state my entire Dead resume here, but I do have tons of shows and memories under my belt covering numerous decades and many bands (GD, JGB, Ratdog,..). I feel obligated to remind us all how very blessed we are to have Phil & Bobby, men in their mid/upper 60's mind you, and still have their health, artistic passion, and amazing talent and continue to make the sacrificial commitment and effort to hit the road, travel many more miles, and play the music they created and love so much just to entertain all of us for nearly 50 YEARS! With the traveling and drug risks they took over all those years, they are very, very fortunate to have survived it all, yet they still decide to hit the stage and belt out a show to the best of their ability! They're not kids anymore, so let's cheer them on, enjoy & admire their amazing musical gifts, and be grateful for all they have done for us.......AMEN!
Reviewer: childofthemoon - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 1, 2009
Subject: try to be objective and just listen to the music
I'll admit this felt a bit weird at first but then I really set my bias aside and listened to the music. The fact of the matter is that for a pure Grateful Dead listening experience this just blows all other post-Jerry groups out of the water. Yes people, it's that good. Just listen to Cumberland, Samson, King Solomons Marbles, or the jam out of Pride into Throwing Stones. Let's be honest, this is how most of us want to hear these songs live. I don't want the P&F, Ratdog, or Allman-fried Dead versions of these songs. Give it a fair listen and be rewarded with some of the best Grateful Dead music heard in years.
Reviewer: ValleyDragon - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 29, 2009
Subject: this is wonderful
First of all I just want to say to all the haters out there. "I truly feel sorry for anyone who listens to this music and does get chills down there spine." Also I would like to note there is a big difference between trying to sound like Jerry and sounding like Jerry. The guys are playing great together. I belive that this music is truly beautiful.
Reviewer: fillmore - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 10, 2009
Subject: just enjoy the music
Hey lovehaight, if you don't like the music, don't listen to it, it's as simple as that!
Reviewer: C.Shepard - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 30, 2009
Subject: lovehaight ????
Who is this demented man-boy of a fool called lovehaight. Geeze if ya just dont like something then go away. Doesnt that make sense. The Dead have been playing for about 45 years and along come yet another idiot who thinks he has the right to tell them their business, how to play and who to play with. All my Grateful Thanks to the Band and support crew, and the tapers for getting us the music" Let there be fill the air"
Reviewer: Hamal - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 15, 2009
Subject: thanks drpinky
Well done! If you read lovehaight reviews he goes so far as to call another reviewer an "asshole" and "deaf" just for respectfully saying he didn't like the recording.
Reviewer: drpinky - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 13, 2009
Subject: lovehaight
To have this guy aping a thoughtful reviewer is too's time for the Internet Archive to hang it up if they have to resort to publishing this...this reviewer doesn't have a original bone in his body...and his writing is just fucking annoying
Reviewer: gregulator - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 11, 2009
Subject: you suck
"lovehaight" you need to stay away from these shows and out of our scene. Phil can play with whomever he chooses. You are the one who is disrespectful here. If Phil and bob agreed with you then they wouldn't play with John.
the show gets 5 stars.
Reviewer: Mr. Charlie - Lambertville - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 10, 2009
Subject: Hey "LoveHaight"
You need to relax. What you just said about JK you could say about any great classical conductor and orchestra the world over. I don't know you but I know you just don't seem to get it. I checked out your reviews on the archive and you seem to favor for reviews Late 80's/90's GD, The Dead, Max Creek and others. You missed the show. Enjoy the music and be greatful and keep the negativity to yourself especially when you clearly don't know what the hell your talking about.
Reviewer: Estimated Pete - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 10, 2009
Subject: Comes a time
OK, I've thoroughly listened to all three shows, and the verdict is in...
These guys are good. Real good. I like what they're doing musically. Bob & Phil seem to really like playing with this lineup. It shows in the music. Bob does less talk-singing than with The Dead. The songs take on different jams and the music is still experimental. My only complaint is: no Drums/Space. I like it when they get weird. Sometimes the jams get spacey, but no clear space or drums is present. Oh well. More music that way, I guess. Maybe they'll space it up on the East coast fling.
Reviewer: Birchola - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 8, 2009
Subject: good
Havent listen to the show yet but like the setlist and thinks John K from DSO brings in a great touch. Love Warren Haynes but would much rather John K. anytime
Reviewer: RAW77 - - October 8, 2009
Subject: lovehaight?
Don't like = Don't listnen. Reviews are for the music not your personal opinion about a guitar player. Review the music people!!!!!! quit throwing in your opinions wether you think someone is worthy or not.
Reviewer: lovehaight - favorite - October 5, 2009
Subject: CRAP
To have this guy aping Jerrys guitar is too's time for Phil and Bob to hang it up if they have to resort to this...this guy doesn't have a original bone in his body...and his voice is just fucking annoying
Reviewer: philingroovie - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 5, 2009
Subject: Thanks
now lets go run and see...
Reviewer: lamagonzo - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 3, 2009
Subject: Furthur @ the Fox 9/20
John and the drummers are breathing new life into Bob & Phil. The Cukamunga>Jam>Throwing Stones>Passenger is outstanding. The tempo on Cosmic Charlie is refreshing. The jams are nice and will probably get more elobgated as time goes on. Bob & Phil finally agreeing to have somebody in lead guitar who can get out in front of them is a breakthrough. Time to have some fun again!
Reviewer: Keirweir2000 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 2, 2009
Subject: Furthermore
I am not sure Phil gave in to "re-creating" the music. The finally picked a guitar player who understands the music in and out. They are playing the music the way it was meant to be played. They are playing the music the way they want to play it. I would much preffer JK over Warren. I would preffer Kimock over Warren. The Dead your last year sucked. i donlt care what anyone said. I left mid second set because it was lifeless. This has life. JK can play and the boys feed off of him.
Reviewer: phlpsvll - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 1, 2009
Subject: Furthur Rocks
This is the band I have been waiting on. Best post jerry show I have seen. Having John in the band is good news to my ears. He played some great solos all weekend. Have not seen a show with so much energy since the mid eighties. Great song choices every night. Amazing stuff. I think this was the best of the three. Jam after Cucamonga was amazing. Seems like there is no first set anymore and thats great with me. They dive right in and go deep.
Reviewer: Neumanfish - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 28, 2009
Ok, everybody has been dancing around the idea that someone can play in the vain of Jerry without being just like him which would be a turn off for most of us. John has mastered this without sounding exactly like him, so what makes him special, bottom line John has sole. This has been missing from the music since jerry's demise. We have had all the takes on this music we can muster, but this time they found a guy who is a 3 degree black belt in the Dead's music, playing their music everynight for years. There were times I thought John knew the music better & surprised both Phil & Bobby. I mean Phil moving around & even dancing a little, who thought it possible, get john on guitar & I think anything is possible. If can't have jerry back in the band, I need someone who knows how to get into the heads of these advance players about their own music & get them energised to play it, it was really refreshing to see. This last night was a joy, 4th row in front of John gave me some insight on the playing & phasing he was using. There were times it scared me a little because it was so over whelming. Half step was one of my favs for the show, John took this everywhere you wanted to go & then some. In the pass reincarnations of the band it was always wanting in some way. I always want it to have somthing more, I didn't know what it was until these shows, a Sole. The music is back the way I like to hear it. I don't care if they have a trained hamster playing lead, just as long as it has the sole & understands when to be jammy, quite, loud, & add all those filler riffs that make the music correct. Oh yeah, don't forget the big smiles on the original players faces, that gave me the biggest joy of all. Something really special happened at the FOX- I want to get in front of this music again soon!!!
Reviewer: pyite74 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 28, 2009
Subject: McLovin' It!
Boy-Howdy this smokes!! Pride into Jam simply rock solid. Go John K!
Reviewer: austin nyc - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 28, 2009
Subject: They're Back
AMAZING!!! I can only wish I was there.
Reviewer: babaganoosh - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 26, 2009
Subject: wow.
This is the best post jerry show i've heard. Not a big DSO fan, but I just like hearing someone who fits the jerry mold. He's not a perfect imitation of Jerry's voice or guitar, but he's in the same vein, which is great. I love Warren, but he's just got a different style.
Chimenti deserves some mention. In my honest opinion he's a better player than keith or brent, and I love both Keith and Brent. His playing on King Solomons Marbles is awesome.
I also love the drums on this. They just sound a little crisper, a little more youthful than billy and mickey.
Oh, and Phil is on fire.
Reviewer: SylvanStudios - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 26, 2009
Subject: Fantastic fun!
I started seeing GD in 1973, and while I've enjoyed seeing the various incarnations post-Jerry, there's always been something seriously missing - the HEART of the Grateful Dead. This band has got it - BIGTIME! I'm very excited to see where this goes. What an incredible start. It's interesting to see the comments about JK's singing. To me, he really captures the spirit of Jerry from the 70's. He sounds like a young Jer. Perhaps some of the people who aren't crazy about his singing just never heard Jerry live back in the day. To me, Stu Allen is great, but he sounds like a 90's Jerry. I say let this guy sing ALL of the Jerry parts. And I'm really waiting to hear the Jerry ballads - which were conspicuous in their absence at these shows.
Reviewer: gratefulhan - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 26, 2009
Subject: Wow!
OK, a part of me wanted this just be another nice, but not thrilling off-shoot of post-Grateful Dead line-ups. I guess I was hoping the Mickey and Billy would be there. Nothing against the guys they have now, but I like the Core 4 idea. Also, I would like to think that Ratdog and Phil N' Phriends would have been entities that would look for expansion in terms of sound and repertoire, which they have done to some extent. Which would then leave the more Grateful Dead Like things to the Other Ones/The Dead as it would be the uniting of the Core 4.

Needless to day this is my own personal eccentricity and not really even an opinion. Bottom line is this line-up and this show in particular take the Grateful Dead and transport it somewhere far away yet oh-so-familiar. This is absolutely wonderful, beautiful, and any other adjective you can throw in there. I mean this band sounds so tight, like they have been playing for years. I got see the solo Dead show in 08' and a few in 09' and I must say that this is way above those shows. I had a lot fun and had some nice moments at those shows, but this is just wow... I have to see this band; it is my destiny.

Oh and by the way, if you haven't downloaded this show yet, you better get movin'.
Reviewer: SpaceRanger - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 25, 2009
Subject: Great music...
These three nights sound alot better than I expected. I mean I didn't think they wouldn't sound good but I didn't think I'd enjoy the music as much as I thought especially with a dude from a tribute band that makes a living emulating Jerry...dont get me wrong he does play great but not so much singing leave that for the tribute band.
Seriously, I can't believe that alot of you guys want to hear JK sing more, he sounds nothing like Jerry, Stu sounds like Jerry if anyone...JK's singing is the part that kinda cheeses it up for me. Hopefully they keep him at two song minimum like they did with Warren last spring.
Reviewer: logan714 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 25, 2009
Subject: thank god for the grateful dead
there back
Reviewer: jamiejoon - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 25, 2009
Subject: Yahoo!! They're back!!
This 3-night run was the most fun I've had at a show since probably 90-91. Something special was going on in the Fox, and everyone knew it.

Sound in the theater was a bit weird, though. In front of the speakers (I mean, like directly - my ears are still ringing) on Phil's side, you could not hear Kadlecik on Nite 1; Nite 2 was a little better, Nite 3 was best. But still, very loud but without the usual clarity. When I moved 20-30 feet right - hello, there's John! Whoever was at the board, get it together! You expect more bass and keys on the left, but come on!

Performances all three nights were amazing, but Night 3 was (IMO) bonkers from the very first note. Fantastic performances, and we will be up front and bopping whenever this lineup manifests again. More!

One more note: Bobby, smile a little!
Reviewer: weathercommand - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 25, 2009
Subject: JK
I saw the GD hundreds of times ( w/jerry ) and DSO as many. JK is an unbelievable talent and a welcome to another band I can now go and see. The other dead bands just didn't do it for me...the addition of JK who lives, eats and breathes Garcia is most welcome...Plus, they all looked so happy in Oakland. Now, if they let John sing :-)
Reviewer: Stellablu122 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 24, 2009
Subject: Go on home your Mama calling you
I just knew this band would work with John joining the mix, and no I am not a big DSO fan either, and it is clear Phil and Bobby are totally enjoying playing together again. This first set is easily the best of the run and I will just add that the 1/2 Step is a must listen. I toatlly agree with what has been said so far below too.

Set two is wonderful and I will just add, listen to this Cassidy and you will witness the potential of this band. They weave a majestic and passionate new interpetation on this song and the results are beautiful and inspired. Then to drift into DS, although the jam is slightly weak, is very cool.
It is a very good version by the way.

JK really creates something quite special and demonstats he can add something of his own to the GD song book.I also have to give a big shout out to the new rhythm section this guys really gell the entire show. I love Billy and Mickey, but these guys deserve credit for some magical work.
Phil's new song is wondefully refreshing with a cool intrumental sandwiched in the middle. Now we just need Hunter to share a few new ones with this band.
The end of the set is very strong with an outstanding Sugar Magnolia and an amazing SSDD.
Then the inside joke for the encore.
We are definetly not going home guys.
Well done!
Reviewer: wolfmanjack - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 24, 2009
Subject: Wish i was there, this sounds real nice
loving that jam out of Pride into Throwin Stones in set 1

King Solomon's is rather nice two.

Thanks for this recording it's the best of the sources i've heard so far. Way better than the Nuemann source i (had) of 9/20.

and yeah Bobby, anytime you want to let John sing the Jerry tunes in this outfit will be fine by me.

5 stars for a 5 star post Jerry project.
Reviewer: kavananda - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 24, 2009
Subject: .....and so it begins....
without any doubt, this 3 day run was the most majestic musical experience i've had in 14 years/1000 shows chasing the dragons tail. john has lifted the anchor like arthur pulled the sword and the material continues its journey. recordings will never do it justice. let bobby sing if he's inspired, john can focus on taking us furthur. if you play stadiums, we will come, hand-in-hand....
Reviewer: farmer mike - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 24, 2009
Subject: yeah to the boys in oakland
six full sets with much mind bending music.
thanks to the boys for coming together, fox theater for having a special space, and the fans for being there to complete the circle.
a ripping 2nd set opening with viola - cumberland - viola.
what a weekend
Reviewer: Loser_Boy - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 24, 2009
Subject: Can we go any furthur?
Love it... just when you thought they couldn't take us any Furthur we get this. thanks. these cats have more energy individually than most bands have as a whole...our love won't fade away
Ohio Loves you all
Reviewer: beep* - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 24, 2009
Subject: further fox.....
What a pleasant surprise. And a nice time for all.
Now if we can only get Bobby back into his cowboy outfits. Oops. Showing my age.
Reviewer: Shiva Ho - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 24, 2009
Subject: Let John Sing!!!!
Yup this is what every DeadHead has been waiting for.... Someone that sounds like Jerry.... Plays Like Jerry & is still alive...
Just wished Bobby would stop Ratdoggin' it on the Lyrics he's not suppose to sing...
& They Really Should Add the Grateful back in their name.... as a sign they finally get it!!!
To be Ungrateful is to be already dead...

Thanks a bunch NakGuy
Reviewer: bigmoe53 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 24, 2009
Subject: Thanks for the music...
First of all thanks to the band for he wonderful music. Secondly thanks to the tapers who make these shows available so soon. If anyone has the time to write down and explain the process to hook up with etree I would greatly appreciate it. I am 56 and clearly electronically challenged. Of all the music I have downloaded and burned, I know there is a lot from etree that I would like. I have lots to trade for help espcially if you are interested in '71, '73. Thanks..Big Moe
Reviewer: WNEC_Chip - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 24, 2009
Subject: Yeah- this is the band
Grateful Dead music sounding like: The Grateful Dead

The way it's supposed to be, without any of that Allman's vibe mixed-in. That sound doesn't belong in Grateful Dead music in my opinion.

All I can say is that it's about freakin' time guys!

Now if only they would just do more shows and let Kadlecik sing *all* of the Jerry parts...

Nice recording too Nakguy- way to go!
Reviewer: PeterT23 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 24, 2009
Subject: Great sound
I had he pleasure of hanging out and chatting with Nakguy during the show, and it turns out I've uploaded other torrents of his to the LMA in the past. I'm happy to upload this outstanding recording! This is my first time really listening closely to Milabs, and I'm very impressed with their balance. They really captured the sound in the taper section well. Enjoy! - and thanks...
Reviewer: DSOHEAD - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 24, 2009
Subject: NICE!!!!
Sounds awesome. Love Warren but this is more my speed. Hope they take this lineup East!
Reviewer: TylerCurtis - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 24, 2009
Subject: This band is just amazing.
Nuff said. This band is just quite simply... EPIC. John K is such a nice finishing touch on the core duo plus Joe and Jay fucking Lane. 5 stars.
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